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No, the IRA would not emerge, as the Catholic community is more well-to-do nowadays, and the PIRA depended heavily on a community of losers. The Catholics are not majorities in any age group in NI - https://factcheckni.org/articles/does-northern-ireland-have-a-majority-catholic-population/ The 2021 census shows 46% Catholic, unchanged from 1921 - there is no evidence this is going to increase with the birth rate now stabilised. Ulster is permanently British. The Shankill Road has won. Take that on the chin, Aodh Rua. I notice all your energy goes into anti-Englishness. Have you ever even noticed that immigration will destroy both Britain and Ireland? Unionism will become a nonsense as it increasingly becomes a case of insisting NI is ruled by Pakistanis in London.... British is being destroyed by immigration. In fact. RoI is trying to catch up in the migration stakes too This will destroy both traditions in NI and means we need to view ourselves as white mainly, and not British or Irish. Do you think your future Somali overlords give a damn about Bobby Sands and the Battle of Boyne? I have to tell you, they don't!

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I totally agree that we have to identify primarily as white, that's why we are being targeted not on specific national bases.

No, if there is a vote for a UI and that is not respected then an IRA will emerge. The IRA in rural areas like South Armagh was similiar to Old IRA, it was just an expression of the will of the Catholic people as a whole.

Ulster is less British every day. This is what Loyalists constantly tell us. I don't think they are entirely wrong.

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Ireland is also less Irish every day. That is the main point. Have you seen Niall McConnell's video on Youtube. Although I feel nothing when I see that video of him standing to attention next to the Irish Tricolour, I do know that we make a big mistake if we don't side with all white nations. I went to Dublin last year, and saw how many sleeping bags there were in the streets. My hotel was the Marlin - right near St Stephen's Green and it seemed off to me that homelessness was so obvious in King's Road South - literally round the corner from the Irish Parliament. If Varadkar pops out for a sandwich, he's stepping over sleeping bags - and yet for him, it's not a big deal!!!!

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Well there's 2 processes. All nations in Western Europe are becoming less native. In addition in NI, there is also a process where Irishness is becoming proportionally stronger than the British culture.

But again the regional particularities of NI are probably melting in general. I get zero animosity from Unionists, I don't know if they instinctively know that I am right wing or something. Unionists are more clued in on immigration than the average English or Irish person.

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I think the hostility was always mainly from the Nationalist side.... But yes, the Unionists are more based, but it is also the centrist form of being based - the neo-conservatism. So Unionists are pro-Israeli.... and Nationalists pretend that the FAlls Road etc have always been treated like Gaza by the British. In fact, we need to divorce the US Deep State and their narratives and while Palestinians aren't OUR GUYS - believe me, I can sleep soundly even if Gaza is ethnically cleansed - we should not be peddling Israeli/Zionist propaganda. I'm English, but if I were in Ulster, I'd be TUV. I have ancestors from Co. Down and Co. Tyrone - both Catholic, so I imagine I have distant cousins in the IRA probably. My Tyrone ancestors were from the parish of Clogher - right next door to Monaghan, so quintessential border country. My Down ancestors were from the Mourne mountains area near Kilkeel.

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I would disagree with the hostility being primarily from Nationalists. If you look at the burning of the National flag in the 12th and the KAT and KAI signs, there is no real equivalent on the other side. In addition, often Nationalists in areas such as Derry in the Troubles didn't have very much interaction with Unionists, they knew the British Army but they never really encountered Unionists. The areas of greatest intensity were primarily not 50/50 areas but heavily Republican areas.

I don't have any problem with people who vote TUV. But it was an ethnic conflict, it's not really a matter of right and wrong. I couldn't turn my back on Irish Nationalists facing the British Army and the hatred of the wider world.

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On Gaza yeah it's a tough one. Europe has a specific problem with Muslims. I know the argument that Jewish organizations are behind mass immigration but possibly we made certain psychological errors which caused our downfall which were not necessarily caused by the Jews. And there is a moral issue with the current war, I don't want Europe to take the anger of the Islamic world for supporting this out of loyalty to Israel.

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